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Re: I don't need no stinking firewall!
From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 08:12:46 +0000
On Jan 6, 2010, at 2:47 PM, James Hess wrote:
"Overflowing the state table" then becomes only a possible outcome that has some acceptable level of probability, assuming that your other protections have already failed...
Wrong. The attacker just programmatically generates semantically-valid traffic which is indistinguishablle from real traffic, and crowds out the real traffic. All those fancy timers and counters and what-not don't matter. I've seen it done over and over again. Why some folks seem to think this is theoretical or that I somehow haven't thought of something they think will prove to be a magic solution is really beyond me, heh. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Roland Dobbins <rdobbins () arbor net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com> Injustice is relatively easy to bear; what stings is justice. -- H.L. Mencken
Current thread:
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall!, (continued)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Mark Foster (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Dobbins, Roland (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Robert Brockway (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Dobbins, Roland (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Jonathan Lassoff (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Dobbins, Roland (Jan 05)
- RE: I don't need no stinking firewall! George Bonser (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! James Hess (Jan 05)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! William Pitcock (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Dobbins, Roland (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Dobbins, Roland (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Jared Mauch (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Dobbins, Roland (Jan 06)
- RE: I don't need no stinking firewall! Brian Johnson (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Brian Keefer (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! David Hiers (Jan 06)
- RE: I don't need no stinking firewall! Brian Johnson (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Brian Keefer (Jan 06)
- RE: I don't need no stinking firewall! Brian Johnson (Jan 06)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Bruce Curtis (Jan 12)
- RE: I don't need no stinking firewall! Brian Johnson (Jan 13)
- Re: I don't need no stinking firewall! Mark Foster (Jan 05)