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Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg)
From: Greg Bur <pizon () linux-advocacy org>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 20:57:55 -0600
On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 18:10 -0500, Paul Bosworth wrote:
I think a lot of people often forget that ISPs are actually businesses trying to turn a profit.
That sums it up pretty well. In a previous life I operated an ISP in a small town. When I entered the arena there was one other competitor, another independent ISP deploying 2.4GHz wireless. The RBOC and cable company weren't even considering rolling out high speed service but there was a definite demand, especially from the business community. I ended up having some measure of success deploying a mix of 2.4GHz and 900MHz wireless with DSL to fill in a few gaps. Before I sold the business my main competitor folded and the RBOC pushed out DSL. I think the local cable company joined the fray a couple years ago, too. My achilles heel wasn't having to compete with a goliath RBOC, it was all of the marketing. People would see ads on TV and in newspapers from providers who didn't even serve the area. When they were told "sorry, no broadband for you" from one of these national providers they would often accept that as a final answer. Folks often confused my wireless service with cellular or satellite access. They would have a hard time understanding why I could not provide them service well out of range of my POP where they could get "four bars" on their cell phone. Toward the end I floated the idea of a co-op but local politics prevailed over common sense and I quietly exited the business. Things are slightly better today but the areas that were underserved four years ago are still underserved. Population density will keep it that way for some time but I think people have better options today than a few years ago. My parents still only have 384k DSL but they are quite satisfied with it. Broadband co-ops will help in areas where local politics don't get in the way, but otherwise it is like Paul said, it's just business. That's my two cents, feel free to give change.
Current thread:
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg), (continued)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Brandon Galbraith (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) James Jones (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Daniel Senie (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) James Jones (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Daniel Senie (Feb 26)
- RE: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Crooks, Sam (Feb 26)
- RE: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Haney, Wilson (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Daniel Senie (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) gordon b slater (Feb 27)
- RE: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Haney, Wilson (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Paul Bosworth (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Brandon Galbraith (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Greg Bur (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Joel Jaeggli (Feb 27)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Michael Sokolov (Feb 26)
- Re: Locations with no good Internet (was ISP in Johannesburg) Michael Sokolov (Feb 26)