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Re: [Fwd: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] RIPE NCC Position On The ITU IPv6 Group]
From: "Kevin Oberman" <oberman () es net>
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 09:09:24 -0800
From: gordon b slater <gordslater () ieee org> Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:52:21 +0000 On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 09:40 -0600, Jorge Amodio wrote:I guess nobody needs ITU-T anymore, or do we ?ZCZC well, from vague memory, H.264, G711/729, H323, X.509 were/are ITU-T standards - maybe X.25 too though I could have that one wrong. I'll just sit on the fence: as an old radiocomms guy, I'd say ITU-_R_ is still very relevant if you guys DON'T want to watch/listen N. Korean or Bangladeshi TV/radio on your home Sat systems or car radios, to name a couple of recently quoted countries :) But ITU-T? That's one for the VoIP guys to shout about.
No, it is one for everyone who does networking to shout about! ITU is exactly the sort of organization I DON'T want to see in control of the Internet. If you think IETF has gotten to unmanageable, wait until you deal with the ITU-T. It is VERY lawyer heavy. I had to attend some X.400/X.500 meetings and, while the lawyers were never "running" anything, most of the technical people could only speak through the lawyers and the suits out-numbered the techies by almost two to one. And this was a low-level working group. I understand it gets worse as you move up the ladder. The network revolution has left the ITU-T very little to do (at least compared to the old telco days) and they show every sign of wanting to bring all of us wild IP folks under control. Oh, and X.25 and X.509 are from an older organization that merged into the ITU-T when it was created, the CCITT (International Telegraph and Telephone Consultative Committee). It became the ITU-T in 1992. -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman () es net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 Key fingerprint:059B 2DDF 031C 9BA3 14A4 EADA 927D EBB3 987B 3751
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