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Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style
From: JC Dill <jcdill.lists () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 09:22:23 -0800
On 16/12/10 8:52 AM, Jack Bates wrote:
On 12/16/2010 9:17 AM, Mikel Waxler wrote:Comcast can now charge its customers only for upkeep of its network and use the income they get as an "end point delivery network" to offset customercost. Comcast's cost, which are upkeep and expansion of its physical network, now scale proportionally with its customer base.The problem with your layout is that, as a netflix user, I pay more to netflix so that you can have their service over comcast, and my provider doesn't get income from the netflix streams as it is sub 100k users (so I still have to pay for my provider's upgrades to handle the netflix which percentage wise will be higher than comcast due to less ideal bandwidth discounts and the locality which may even drive up the overall percentage of netflix streams per customer base).
Problem? For Comcast, none of this is a problem. (Do you see the problem now?)
Again, I predict that things ARE heading in this direction, and that market forces and the current regulatory climate encourages it. Dire news for small providers. Saying you "want" it to be different[1] won't change anything. I don't know what the solution is (if there is a solution) but so far all I see are people complaining "but if that happens, it's bad for me and for others". Yes, it's bad. What are you going to do to stop it? If Comcast can continue to force other networks to pay it to carry data to Comcast's users, it will create a tidal wave of momentum in their favor for lowering rates and pushing other eyeball networks aside, buying them up or just taking over their territory and customers.
jc [1] I want a pony, etc.
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- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Jay Ashworth (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Matthew Petach (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style mikea (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Mikel Waxler (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style JC Dill (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Mikel Waxler (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style JC Dill (Dec 16)
- RE: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Randy Epstein (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Jack Bates (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style JC Dill (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Mikel Waxler (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Justin M. Streiner (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Lamar Owen (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Lamar Owen (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Mikel Waxler (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Patrick Giagnocavo (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Lamar Owen (Dec 16)
- Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style Paul Graydon (Dec 15)
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