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Re: [Operational] Internet Police
From: Jack Bates <jbates () brightok net>
Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 11:37:15 -0600
On 12/10/2010 11:06 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
The USA Patriot act says: "activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the U.S. or of any state, that (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population, (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion, or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping, and (C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the U.S."
At most, B ii applies, but if I'm not mistaken, A, B, and C must all occur by that statute (the giveaway is C, as it doesn't make sense as a single condition).
The Patriot act seems to discount foreign terrorism (unsurprising), but even going by A and B, the DDOS would have to be dangerous to human life and be illegal by US/state law, in addition to intimidating (which purposefully being dangerous to human life definitely falls under intimidation).
So attacking infrastructure (effecting traffic lights, power, air traffic control systems, etc) would fall under terrorism (regardless of attack mechanism). I don't think one could constitute the inability to sell a product or process a payment as life threatening. Those acts fall under other legal definitions.
Jack
Current thread:
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police, (continued)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Paul Graydon (Dec 10)
- RE: [Operational] Internet Police George Bonser (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Paul Graydon (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police JC Dill (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Michael Smith (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Lamar Owen (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Jack Bates (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Joel Jaeggli (Dec 10)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police isabel dias (Dec 11)
- Re: [Operational] Internet Police Chris Adams (Dec 09)