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Re: [NANOG] Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks
From: Vadim Antonov <avg () kotovnik com>
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 20:45:16 -0800
This nonsense is only non-operational until you suddenly find yourself in a dire need to evade military patrols on a street while you're dragging a bag full of equipment to your "backup" NOC. Been there, done that. What are your contingency plans for the event of a government order (illegal, of course, but that'd be your least worry) to shut the network down? Putting your head into sand saying "it can't happen here?" Yes, it can. In the Soviet Union just emptying datacenters and phone exchanges from any personnel other than security guards - with all technical people making themselves unreachable was sufficient to keep the networks running. The goons, apparently, had no clue which switches to turn. (There also was a capacity problem caused by the surge in the traffic; but this isn't likely to be a problem in the modern networks, but arranging local caches for highly demanded videos and "alternative" news sites - all mainstream outlets will be playing the equivalent of Swan Lake - may be necessary in order to keep service running). --vadim John R. Dennison wrote:
On Sun, Dec 05, 2010 at 02:53:22AM +0000, Michael Sokolov wrote:Factoid: we outnumber the pigs by 1000 to 1. Even if only 1% of us were to go out and shoot a pig, we would still outnumber them 10 to 1! We *CAN* win -- wake up, people!Is there really any need for this nonsense on this list? Can all the rhetoric and politics be kept off and return the list to technical issues? There are venues much better suited for those discussions. John
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- Re: [NANOG] Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks John R. Dennison (Dec 04)
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- Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks Jorge Amodio (Dec 04)
- Re: U.S. officials deny technical takedown of WikiLeaks James Hess (Dec 05)
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