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Re: "Unlimited" wireless data...


From: Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2010 19:32:52 -0500

I must once again give props to UBNT if you want awesome wireless gear for CLOS.  For $160 or so, you can get a 60Mb/s 
link up (Mine is a ~3mi/~5km link using two Nanobridge M5's)

They also have 3.65ghz gear as well but is a bit more per unit.  This per unit cost starts to put them in the 'nearly 
disposable' category.  (Oh, and it includes the dish and can do MCS-15 if your range is enough).

Lookup your local/private towers or buildings where you might be able to get space/colo cheap.

It may be easier than you think to get a reliable connection...

- Jared

On Dec 3, 2010, at 7:01 PM, Jason J. W. Williams wrote:

I would second Nathan's experience. Tried to use them for our corporate office as a life boat when our T1 provider 
was sold to an outfit that didn't answer the support lines. Clear's NAT is atrocious and can't be turned off, so you 
can't drop a real firewall behind it on a single static. 

-J
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On Dec 3, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:


This came up in another thread yesterday or today, and I just got the
solicitation mailer for Clearwire's WiMAX service in Tampa Bay, which they
call "4G", though the ITU disagrees.

The AUP is here: http://www.clear.com/legal/aup

I cannot strongly enough discourage you from using their service.  My experience with them has been consistently 
awful - and given that they're headquartered in my area, that's unacceptable.  I'm informed that my experience is 
not at all unique - either to the Seattle area or to their service at large.  Their Wikipedia article tells you 
pretty much everything you need to know.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearwire

Their definition of unlimited tends to be "barely acceptable throughput levels, until you start streaming 
youtube/netflix or doing a long-running download or using bittorrent to seed files to your work PC and laptop or 
using your VPN to retrieve a document, in which case, we won't turn you off, we'll just silently jail you into a 
32-128kbps bandwidth profile.   Also, have some poorly implemented NAT on our ludicrously underpowered CPEs!"

I also understand that they've been having financial difficulties, so they're unlikely to address the issues their 
customers are faced with.

If I were you, I would keep your backpack offline until another option is available.  You're not going to be able to 
use VOIP on their service, anyways.

Nathan
(Speaking as an individual - not as the company I work for.)

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