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Re: Lightly used IP addresses
From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:17:50 -0400
On Aug 13, 2010, at 2:31 PM, Ken Chase wrote:
... Right, and Im answering my own question here, for (8) about the reclaiming - what upstream is going to stop carrying prefixes from a downstream that's 'illegally' announcing them? Is this upstream going to cut that customer off and lose the revenue, just to satisfy ARIN's bleating? From what I gather, all that ARIN can do is remove the NS records for the i-a.a reverse zone for the offending block, making SMTP a little trickier from the block, but not much else. Unless I didnt see the other large sticks ARIN's carrying? I've never seen them send hired goons to anyone's door... yet?
Ken - ARIN maintains the WHOIS based on what the community develops for policies; what's happens in routing tables is entirely up to the ISP community. No "bleating" or "large sticks" here, just turning the policy crank and managing address space accordingly. ARIN pulls the address space, and then (after holddown) reissues it to another provider. WHOIS reflects this change, as does in-addr. Whether an ISP respect the information in WHOIS is likely to always be a "local decision"; ARIN's responsibility is to make sure that the information contained therein matches the community's policy not some hypothetical routing enforcement. There will be an ISP attempting to make use of that reassigned address space, and one could imagine that party being let down if the community says one thing in policy but does another when it comes to routing. /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN
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- Re: Lightly used IP addresses, (continued)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Doug Barton (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Chris Grundemann (Aug 14)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Greg Whynott (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Nathan Eisenberg (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses David Conrad (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- RE: Lightly used IP addresses Frank Bulk (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Randy Bush (Aug 14)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Owen DeLong (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 13)
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- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses bmanning (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses Ken Chase (Aug 13)
- Re: Lightly used IP addresses John Curran (Aug 13)