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Re: net-neutrality


From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven () cb3rob net>
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:25:25 +0000 (UTC)

it is:

c) RIAA/MPAA members trying to make ISPs liable for what customers do in order to somehow fork the isp into kicking out the customer, as they refuse to simply go to court against the customer but rather prefer to harrass their ISP or their isp's isp..

Well guess what, we don't really feel like giving them something for free (their traffic being relayed over our infrastructure) if they act hostile, if they can't get the piratebay ITSELF to shut down, we can only conclude the piratebay has the RIGHT to internet just as much as they do, actually more, as the piratebay paid us, and they don't.

(so let's change the payment structure a bit and make these people pay us too ;)

see also the various piratebay cases, as well as the fact that universal music germany gmbh can't be fucked to pay for their own court fees if they need a court order to get us to give out an address (the poor fuckers, whatever happened to mtv-cribs ;)



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On Wed, 11 Aug 2010, Mark Smith wrote:

On Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:52:53 +0000 (UTC)
Sven Olaf Kamphuis <sven () cb3rob net> wrote:

Hi, considering the fact that several organisations have been severely
undermining net-neutrality over the past few months,

What is your definition of violating net-neutrality?

Is it

(a) carriers ransoming content providers so that only then will the
content providers receive fair, equal and unfettered access to the
carriers' customers?

or

(b) applying QoS to customer traffic if necessary because TCP was
designed to suck up all the bandwidth available (to try to achieve 100%
return on investment in the network capex), based on an original
assumption that there'd be short bursts of TCP traffic, and now some
applications, particular P2P ones, which use TCP, now create constant
rather than bursty load on the network, resulting in congestion and
impacting latency sensitive applications such as VoIP and gaming?



which they seem to
see as less important than their copyright bullshit, we have decided to
set an example:

Should the following networks, to which list more will be added over the
coming month, desire to exchange traffic with AS34109, they can obtain a
traffic relay contract at sales () cb3rob net, the costs of which amount
to 10000 euros per month, excl. 19% VAT, if not, well, then it's simply no
more internets for them... sorry peeps.


193.108.8.0/21#GEMA-NET
195.109.249.64/29#SONYMUSIC
195.143.92.160/27#SBMG1-NETS
212.123.224.240/29#Net-WEGENER-MEDIA-BV
212.123.227.64/29#BumaStemra2
212.136.193.216/29#BUMA
212.78.179.240/28#BUMA-STEMRA
213.208.242.160/29#NL-COLT-BUMA-STEMRA
217.148.80.112/28#NL-NXS-CUST-1004613
85.236.46.0/24#IX-UNIVERSAL-NET


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