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Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 17:47:14 -0400
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 5:26 PM, John Payne <john () sackheads org> wrote:
b) ARIN or RIRv6 has costs that are covered by registration fees. How does having a whole bunch of freeloaders save me money?
'Cause if you're clever about it, they're not freeloaders forever... they only get to be freeloaders until, as you so succinctly put it, their presence pushes you into the majority that finds it acceptable to deploy IPv6-only servers. What I might do, and I'm just talking here, but what I might do in ARIN's shoes is preemptively allocate /32s or assign /48s to ARIN orgs whose ASes currently announce only IPv4 prefixes. The deal is: everybody gets em, no assignment fee or evaluation beyond the fact that you're announcing IPv4 now, free for two years after which you either sign the contract and start paying the annual, or you don't and the address block is reclaimed by ARIN. Gives me a $1250 incentive to deploy IPv6 now instead of waiting, and costs you nothing now since I wouldn't have spent the $1250 now anyway. Probably costs you nothing later too, because after two years I'll be paying annuals that I might not otherwise have had to pay -and- since my assignment was done in bulk, ARIN staff will never spend the time (time=money) individually processing my initial assignment.
Inducing behavior that ultimately reduces everybody's cost "serves the public interest." That's what organizations like ARIN are for: serving the public interest.But I don't agree that giving you a free ride reduces everyone's costs. In fact, I think it increases everyone else's costs.
Fair enough. I won't begrudge you the choice. Just remember years from now when you cough up the cash for that extra v4 address: you had another option. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
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- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space, (continued)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Joel Jaeggli (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space JC Dill (Apr 10)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Curran (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Payne (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Payne (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Payne (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Payne (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space William Herrin (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Valdis . Kletnieks (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Joe Greco (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Payne (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Owen DeLong (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space John Payne (Apr 08)
- RE: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Schiller, Heather A (HeatherSkanks) (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Michael Dillon (Apr 08)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Joe Greco (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Martin Barry (Apr 09)
- Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space Cian Brennan (Apr 09)