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Re: Cisco 7600 vs ASR 9000
From: Terje Bless <link () pobox com>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:41:52 +0200
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 6:22 PM, Nick Colton <networkjedi () geekwhore net> wrote:
Cisco has been recommending the Cisco 7600 as our core router. My concern is that cisco told us that in the event of an RSP failover the 7600 could take up to 30 seconds to begin routing packets again, this seems wrong to me since my old Extreme Networks BD 6808 can do failovers and rebuild route tables in under 5 seconds but??
For NSF/SSO mode the 7600 is claimed to do Sup failover in 0-3 seconds (which jives pretty well with my experience), but with some caveats. I think it needs to rebuild its RIB tables, which may take on the order of 30+ seconds, after a failover and can only keep forwarding traffic based on the state of the tables at the point of the failover. NSF/SSO mode has a couple limitations (only BGP, OSPF, and IS-IS supported), doesn't support IPv6 multicast, etc. 30+ seconds failover time sounds more like RPR/RPR+. You can find a fairly good overview of this on CCO: * NSF/SSO: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/ios/12.2SXF/configuration/guide/nsfsso.html * RPR/RPR+: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/routers/7600/ios/12.2SXF/configuration/guide/redund.html I run these as essentially switches with very simple LAN routing so I can't really tell you whether there are any huge honking caveats when you use them as actual routers (i.e. WAN/SP type applications). I know there have been some complaints about buggy IOS versions, unpredictable feature/module support, and the notorious 6500 vs. 7600 platform split (thank you ever so much for that one Cisco, really). I've been pretty happy with the platform over the years, but while it's still got plenty of oomph for my applications it is getting to be a quite old platform. If I were to start looking at building something new (i.e. no existing platform investment to take into account) I'd probably be looking at Nexus for datacenter and ASR for anything router-ish. I think 6500/7600 will still scale further up (significantly so, iirc) and is more flexible than the ASRs (I view the ASRs competing/replacing the 7200/7300 rather than 6500/7600), but if you're looking at anything resembling a clean slate you'll probably want to evaluate those alternatives. Anyways, if you're going with Cisco then asking on the cisco-nsp list, as was suggested elsewhere, is probably not a bad idea. HTH, -link
Current thread:
- Cisco 7600 vs ASR 9000 Nick Colton (Sep 21)
- Re: Cisco 7600 vs ASR 9000 Alex H. Ryu (Sep 21)
- Re: Cisco 7600 vs ASR 9000 Jared Mauch (Sep 22)
- Re: Cisco 7600 vs ASR 9000 Terje Bless (Sep 22)