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Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:42:53 -0400
On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Leo Vegoda <leo.vegoda () icann org> wrote:
On Sep 9, 2009, at 7:18 PM, Alex Lanstein wrote:Along the same lines, I noticed that the worst Actor in recent memory (McColo - AS26780) stopped paying their bills to ARIN and their addresses have been returned to the pool. It's my opinion that a very select number of CIDR blocks (another example being the ones belonging to Cernel/InternetPath/Atrivo/etc, if it were ever fully extinguished) are, and forever will be, completely toxic and unusable to any legitimate enterprise. Arguments could be made that industry blacklists can and should be more flexible, but from the considerably more innocuous case in this thread, that is apparently not the modus operandiPutting these addresses back into use does not mean that they have to be allocated to networks where they'll number mail servers. ARIN staff is doubtless aware of the history of these blocks and will presumably do their best to allocate them to networks that aren't intended to host mail servers.
to quote bmanning.. they may even be put into service on a network that is not 'the internet'. Though I think Alex's idea isn't without merit, perhaps as a stage between 'de-allocate from non-payer' and 'allocate to new payer'. (perhaps only for blocks meeting some set of criteria, yet to be determined/discussed) -Chris
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- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation, (continued)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Kevin Loch (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Benjamin Billon (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Peter Beckman (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joel Jaeggli (Sep 11)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joe Greco (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Joel Jaeggli (Sep 11)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Leo Vegoda (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Christopher Morrow (Sep 13)
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- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Tim Chown (Sep 14)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Valdis . Kletnieks (Sep 10)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Christopher Morrow (Sep 13)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Jon Lewis (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Justin Shore (Sep 08)
- Re: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation Rich Kulawiec (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks (was: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation) John Curran (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks (was: Repeated Blacklisting / IP reputation) Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Chris Marlatt (Sep 14)
- Re: Hijacked Blocks Christopher Morrow (Sep 14)
- RE: Hijacked Blocks Azinger, Marla (Sep 14)
- RE: Hijacked Blocks Azinger, Marla (Sep 14)