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RE: ISP port blocking practice/Free Speech


From: Richard.E.Brown () dartware com (Richard E. Brown)
Date: 25 Oct 2009 10:04:43 -0400

 > Free speech doesn't include the freedom to shout fire in a crowded theatre.

 It most certainly does!  There is absolutely nothing to prevent one from
 shouting "FIRE" in a crowded theatre.

Actually, it doesn't. When I was on-staff at the computer center at Dartmouth, our provost also happened to be a first-amendment scholar, and he gave us an impromptu speech about the first amendment at a staff meeting :-)

The US Supreme Court recognizes a couple exceptions to the broad permission to speak freely:

- Shouting fire in a crowded theater is explicitly prohibited because of the obvious danger and risk of injury.

- "Fighting words", that by their very utterance inflict injury or tend to incite an immediate breach of the peace". [Wikipedia] The example he gave was this: someone standing on a soapbox in Hanover NH, saying that we should storm the gates in Washington and burn the place down is just exercising their free speech rights - there's no credible *imminent* threat. However, standing there and saying that we should burn down the Town Hall could clearly be believed to be a real threat, and the government would be justified in stepping in.

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