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RE: Is your ISP blocking outgoing port 25?


From: Matthew Huff <mhuff () ox com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 11:19:37 -0400

It already is used by Microsoft. Do a google for +Microsoft +Autodiscover.

It is used by Outlook for Windows, Entourage for Mac, the iPhone and Windows
Mobile devices. Like you suggested, it uses DNS based on the users email
address and looks for a series of resolvable addresses the easiest being
autodiscover.domain-name.tld (it has others because of SSL cert
flexibility). It uses that address to download an XML file. 

The only tricky thing to set it up is that a lot of the documentation out
there is dated. It has changed since it was first released and a lot of the
documentation on technical blogs, and even on Microsoft's web site are
incorrect. Once it's setup, however, it's great. 



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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnkblk () iname com]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:14 AM
To: 'John Levine'; nanog () nanog org
Subject: RE: Is your ISP blocking outgoing port 25?

The bootstrap question is addressed by requiring the end-user to know
their
e-mail address and password.  Based on the domain name, the
implementation
would reach out to https://something.domain-name.tld and download the
relevant "schema" and data for IMAP, SMTP, POP3, etc, in ordered
priority.
Based on what the e-mail client could support, the desired settings
would be
displayed, and upon end-user approval, applied. This could be leveraged
by
RIM for their BIS, Microsoft/Gmail/etc for smartphones, and for third-
party
webmail hosts such as mail2web.com

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: John Levine [mailto:johnl () iecc com]
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 9:24 AM
To: nanog () nanog org
Cc: frnkblk () iname com
Subject: Re: Is your ISP blocking outgoing port 25?

It's a pity that MAAWG or another group hasn't written a
specification for the automatic downloading of configuration (with
certificates, to be sure, for some kind of repudiation) and the
update thereof, for adoption by the leading consumer e-mail clients.

MAAWG decided it's not in the standards business, but it does BCPs
pointing at standards elsewhere (mostly the IETF) that it encourages
people to follow.  Write a standard that people can use, and I don't
think I'd have much trouble getting them to endorse it.

It's an interesting design topic, particularly the bootstrap question
of how the client decides where to look for its configuration.  A lot
of this stuff is already available via DHCP, but of course a key goal
here is to set config info the last across reboots on different
networks.

Followup to IETF-something, I suspect.

R's,
John


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