Re: EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored

[Mike Lieman <mikelieman () gmail com>]

Copyright Laws, are just that.  Laws.  And the can be changed if The People
desire it.

The issue I see with copyright TODAY is that there is effectively no entry
of anything into the Public Domain in any reasonable sort of time.
Traditionally that's been the benefit derived by The People for giving
special Copyright privileges.

So what do The People get out of all this?

There's that and the abuse, where content which clearly fails to advance
neither Science nor Useful Arts -- the Constitutionally Mandated extent of
Copyright authority granted to the Legislature -- is Copyrighted.

What Science or Useful Art is Hannah Montana's latest CD advancing, making
it worthy of special privilege?



On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 9:18 PM, John Palmer (NANOG Acct) <nanog2 () adns net>wrote:

> Thats fine - but one thing that I can't tolerate about the Pirates party is
> this
> apparent non-sense that there should be no such thing as copyright.
> AFAIC, making an illegal download of software or music is stealing and is
> no different from going into a shop and shoplifting some merchandise.
>
> Someone is making a living from writing that code or making that music.
>
> John
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Dambier" <peter () peter-dambier de
> >
> To: <nanog () nanog org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 5:36 PM
> Subject: Re: EU elections - piratenpartei.net censored
>
>
>  Thank you Arnold.
> > Yes, we have not put all our eggs in the same nest :)
> >
> > As far as we could find out somebody has put us into an adult filter.
> > That is what triggered the reaction of the hoster.
> >
> > There is a movement of the governing parties in germany to install
> > a mandatory adult filter controled only by a single policeman.
> >
> > That is excactly what the pirates party is opposing.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Peter
> >
> >
> > Arnold Nipper wrote:
> >
> > > On 08.06.2009 00:16 Peter Dambier wrote
> > >
> > >  right during the election the website
> > > > piratenpartei.net
> > > >
> > > > of the german pirates party gets censored by the hoster.
> > > really censored. Do you know why alfahosting.info turned down the site?
> > >
> > >  alfahosting.info
> > > > Good advertising, isn't it?
> > > >
> > > > Interestingly enough their website is down too.
> > > > Afraid of emails I guess.
> > > try http://www.piratenpartei.de/ instead.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Arnold
> >
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