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Re: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:50:44 -0700
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any errors. On Jul 23, 2009, at 4:27, Jim Mercer <jim () reptiles org> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 08:44:21PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:My fav part: <quote>"That's precisely how packets move around the internet, sometimes in amany as 25 or 30 hops with the intervening entities passing the data around having no contractual or legal obligation to the original sender or to the receiver." </quote> How many of you pass packets without getting paid?in the case of intervening entities, it is true that they have no link to the sender or receiver. my packets from office to home can traverse at 3or more networks that are not paid by me, or my company.they likely have contracts or obligations with their immediate neighbours,which is basically why the system continues to work.
I honestly expected someone to mention this when I wrote the original post, but I had hopes no one would. :-)
It is clear the intent of the TED speaker was the intermediaries were transiting packets out of the good of their hearts.
Allow me to illustrate:The postal system is amazing! You can mail a letter from the US to England and the "intermediate" carrier will deliver the mail even though they have NO contract with you or the recipient! How awesome is that?
This is not fantasy. You give it to the USPS, who will hand it to DHL, who will hand it to Royal Mail, who will hand it to the recipient. Does _anyone_ comment on the lack of your contract with DHL? Is anyone surprised it still works? Is it worthy of a TED talk?
-- TTFN, patrick
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- Re: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 22)
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- RE: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website Deepak Jain (Jul 23)
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- RE: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website Winn Johnston (Jul 23)
- Re: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website Zartash Uzmi (Jul 25)
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- Re: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website Kevin Oberman (Jul 22)