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Re: DNS Amplification attack?
From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews () isc org>
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 09:49:26 +1100
In message <497705BD.33E4.0097.0 () globalstar com>, "Crist Clark" writes:
On 1/20/2009 at 7:23 PM, Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews () isc org> wrote:In message <20090121140825.xwdzd4p64kgwo4go () web1 nswh com au>,=20 jay () miscreant or=20 g writes:On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Kameron Gasso <kgasso-lists () visp net>=wro=3Dte: =20We're also seeing a great number of these, but the idiots spoofing =thequeries are hitting several non-recursive nameservers we host - and =onlygenerating 59-byte "REFUSED" replies. Looks like they probably just grabbed a bunch of DNS hosts out of =WHOISand hoped that they were recursive resolvers.=20 First post to this list, play nice :) =20 Are you sure about this? I'm seeing these requests on /every/ =3D20 (unrelated) NS I have access to, which numbers several dozen, in =3D20 various countries across the world, and from various registries (.net, ==3D20.org, .com.au). The spread of servers I've checked is so random that ==3D20I'm wondering just how many NS records they've laid their hands on. =20 I've also noticed that on a server running BIND 9.3.4-P1 with =3D20 recursion disabled, they're still appear to be getting the list of ==3D20root NS's from cache, which is a 272-byte response to a 61-byte =3D20 request, which by my definition is an amplification.=20 BIND 9.3.4-P1 is past end-of-life. =20 You need to properly set allow-query at both the option/view level and at the zone level to prevent retrieving answers from the cache in 9.3.x. =20 option/view level "allow-query { trusted; };" zone level "allow-query { any; };" =20 BIND 9.4.x and later have allow-query-cache make the configuration job easier. It also defaults to directly connected networks.Another BIND-specific question since we're on the topic. I see some of our authorative servers being hit with these spoofs, and yes, the 9.3.5-P1 (that's what Sun supports in Solaris these days) were sending back answers from the cache... but wait... what cache?
Authoritative servers need a cache. Authoritative servers need to ask queries. The DNS protocol has evolved since RFC 1034 and RFC 1035 and authoritative servers need to translate named to addresses for their own use. See RFC 1996, A Mechanism for Prompt Notification of Zone Changes (DNS NOTIFY).
The view the Internet gets only has our authorative zones. There is no declaration for the root zone, master, slave, or hints. How does BIND have the root cached in that view? Where did it get it from? I guess it's hard coded somewhere? Blocking this in the firewall. 1:0 amplification better than the BIND fix, 1:1. But I'll get to the BIND fix anyway.
The real fix is to get BCP 38 deployed. Reflection amplification attacks can be effective if BCP 38 measures have not been deployed. Go chase down the offending sources. BCP 38 is nearly 10 years old. We all should be taking this as a opportunity to find where the leaks are in the BCP 38 deployment and correct them. Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: Mark_Andrews () isc org
Current thread:
- Re: DNS Amplification attack?, (continued)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Kameron Gasso (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Christopher Morrow (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Chris Adams (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Stuart Henderson (Jan 21)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? jay (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Chris Adams (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? jay (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Mark Andrews (Jan 20)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Crist Clark (Jan 21)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Chris Adams (Jan 21)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Mark Andrews (Jan 21)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Paul Vixie (Jan 21)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Florian Weimer (Jan 22)
- Re: DNS Amplification attack? Chris Adams (Jan 20)