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Re: 97.128.0.0/9 allocation to verizon wireless


From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews () isc org>
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 11:07:52 +1100


In message <1234128761.17985.352.camel () guardian inconcepts net>, Jeff S Wheeler
 writes:
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 14:37 -0800, Aaron Glenn wrote:
NAT? why isn't Verizon 'It's the Network' Wireless using IPv6?
<speaking-from-ass>there should be a FOIA-like method to see large
allocation justifications</ass>
Realistically, I suppose Verizon Wireless is big enough to dictate to
the manufacturers of handsets and infrastructure, "you must support IPv6
by X date or we will no longer buy / sell your product."  I wonder if
any wireless carriers are doing this today?

What services require an IP, whether they can be supplied via NAT, how
soon "smart phone" adoption will bring IP to every handset ... all these
are good and valid points.  However, they all distract from the glaring
and obvious reality that there is no current explanation for Verizon
Wireless needing 27M IPs.

        Well it's a 8M allocation for current population of 2M with
        a 25M more potential handsets that will be upgraded soon.
        This looks to be consistent with how ARIN hands out other
        blocks of address space.

        Say on average that you replace a cell phone every three
        years.  In 6 months there will be ~4M more addresses needed.

        I don't see any reason to complain based on those numbers.
        It's just a extremely high growth period due to technology
        change over bring in new functionality.

        Mark
 
Does ARIN lack sufficient resources to vet jumbo requests?

Did Verizon Wireless benefit from favoritism?

Is Barack Obama concerned that his blackberry will not function if
Verizon one day runs out of v4 addresses for its customers?

- j



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