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RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)


From: "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:45:22 -0500

On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore
<patrick () ianai net>wrote:

Except the RIRs won't give you another /48 when you have only used
one trillion IP addresses.

Of course they will!  A /48 is only the equivalent of 65536 "networks"
(each network being a /64).  Presuming that ISPs allocate /64 networks
to each connected subscriber, then a /48 is only 65k subscribers, or
say around a maximum of 200k IP addresses in use at any one time
(presuming no NAT and an average of 3-4 IP-based devices per
subscriber)

IPv4-style utilization ratios do make some sense under IPv6, but not
at the address level - only at the network level.

First, it was (mostly) a joke.

Second, where did you get 4 users per /64?  Are you planning to hand each
cable modem a /64?


No, we should hand each home a /56 (or perhaps a /48, for the purists out
there) - allowing for multiple segments (aka subnet, aka links, etc.).  Note
- the actual number of hosts is irrelevant; the 64 bits on the host side of
the address are not meant to encourage 18BB hosts/segment.

Oh, and utilization should be based on /56s anyway.


/TJ




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