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RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)
From: "TJ" <trejrco () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 20:45:22 -0500
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net>wrote:Except the RIRs won't give you another /48 when you have only used one trillion IP addresses.Of course they will! A /48 is only the equivalent of 65536 "networks" (each network being a /64). Presuming that ISPs allocate /64 networks to each connected subscriber, then a /48 is only 65k subscribers, or say around a maximum of 200k IP addresses in use at any one time (presuming no NAT and an average of 3-4 IP-based devices per subscriber) IPv4-style utilization ratios do make some sense under IPv6, but not at the address level - only at the network level.First, it was (mostly) a joke. Second, where did you get 4 users per /64? Are you planning to hand each cable modem a /64?
No, we should hand each home a /56 (or perhaps a /48, for the purists out there) - allowing for multiple segments (aka subnet, aka links, etc.). Note - the actual number of hosts is irrelevant; the 64 bits on the host side of the address are not meant to encourage 18BB hosts/segment. Oh, and utilization should be based on /56s anyway. /TJ
Current thread:
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)], (continued)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Nathan Ward (Feb 10)
- RE: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space(IPv6-MW)] Jamie Bowden (Feb 06)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space(IPv6-MW)] Christopher Morrow (Feb 06)
- RE: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space(IPv6-MW)] TJ (Feb 07)
- RE: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space(IPv6-MW)] TJ (Feb 07)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Mark Andrews (Feb 05)
- Re: v6 & DSL / Cable modems [was: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW)] Simon Lyall (Feb 05)
- RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) TJ (Feb 04)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) Seth Mattinen (Feb 04)
- RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) Michael K. Smith - Adhost (Feb 04)
- RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) TJ (Feb 04)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) Matthew Moyle-Croft (Feb 04)
- RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) TJ (Feb 04)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) Nathan Ward (Feb 04)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) Måns Nilsson (Feb 04)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space (IPv6-MW) Anthony Roberts (Feb 04)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space Joel Jaeggli (Feb 08)
- Re: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space Trey Darley (Feb 10)
- RE: Private use of non-RFC1918 IP space Skeeve Stevens (Feb 03)