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Re: Yahoo and their mail filters..
From: Brian Keefer <chort () smtps net>
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:37:29 -0800
On Feb 25, 2009, at 1:08 PM, Zaid Ali wrote:
There is also the issue of weather the user trusts the opt out link, I have been in discussions where data shows that most users don't generally trust it.Zaid
Nor should they. Anyone who actually researches this stuff knows that the vast majority of "unsub" links simply confirm you as a live target who will click on random links sent to them through e-mail. Incidentally, what option is specified by the CAN-SPAM act? Oh yeah, opt-out. Genius.
You will never be able to educate the masses on the difference between a legit unsub link and a malicious one. The safest thing for lusers is to ignore them all.
It would be nice if the webmail providers simply mapped the "report spam" function to "add sender to personal blacklist", that way lusers who report their mailing list as spam would simply stop seeing it. Unfortunately that would also result in a lot more storage requirements on the part of said webmail providers, which is probably a major reason why they don't do it.
Frankly the best approach is probably to make "report as spam" a NOP. Users get it wrong the vast majority of the time. Automated honeypot analysis with oversight from clueful e-mail operators is the best way to handle uncaught spam.
-- bk
Current thread:
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.., (continued)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Richey (Feb 25)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ray Corbin (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Jo Rhett (Feb 26)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ray Corbin (Feb 27)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Ken A (Feb 27)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brielle Bruns (Feb 25)
- RE: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Peter Beckman (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Suresh Ramasubramanian (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Peter Beckman (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Zaid Ali (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brian Keefer (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. John Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brian Keefer (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. John R. Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Alexander Harrowell (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Marshall Eubanks (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Brian Keefer (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. John R. Levine (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Marshall Eubanks (Feb 26)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. Seth Mattinen (Feb 25)
- Re: Yahoo and their mail filters.. mike (Feb 25)