RE: RBN and it's spin-offs

["Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf () dessus com>]

> > > Reportedly started by someone operating under the name
> > > "Flyman," RBN is known as the mother of cybercrime among
> > > online investigators. François Paget, senior expert for
> > > the McAfee company, says that RBN began as an Internet
> > > provider and offered "impenetrable" hosting for $600 a
> > > month.  This meant a guarantee that it would not give
> > > out information about its clients, no matter what
> > > business they were in.

> > This is a commendable position and one that should be the
> > default for all businesses.  Severe penalties (such as cutting
> > out of the tongue or cutting off hands) should be dealt to
> > anyone who releases private information without having first
> > ensured that such disclosure is in accordance with a properly
> > obtained court order issued by a competent court in a public
> > hearing (and no, administrative tribunals are not courts of law).

> Wow.  I always knew there existed some alternate universe where the
> RBN were actually the good guys.  Didn't expect to find it so fast,
> and on nanog at that.

Wasn't it Larry Flynt that said: "Because if its good enough to
protect a scumbag like me its sure darn good enough to protect
all of you".

Without a warrant, there is an absolute right to privacy.
It continues to exist right up until either (a) one party chooses
to give up that privacy or (b) a third party arrives with a Court
Order.  This is simply a covenant between two parties to preserve
that "private" state unless lawfully compelled by lawful process
otherwise.  In other words, a covenant to adhere to the rule of
law and the courts in the event of any dispute between the parties
or any third party.  It sure seems like a good thing to me -- and a
covenant I would hope anyone I do business adheres to.

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