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Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure
From: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:14:38 -0500
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com> wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com> wrote:On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster () gmail com> wrote:Folks should not be so obtuse about these activities. It's almost blatantly in-your-face, so to speak. These guys have no fear of retribution.no real arguement, but... 'please provide some set of workable solutions'First question: Solution(s) for which problem(s)?
ideally the 'bad folks get ip space' (which was part of the initial thrust of the thread)
Many of us have already tried to engage ICANN on domain registration issues (primarily bad registrars and policy cruft), as well as RIRs, etc., to no avail.
some headway was made, some more may still come. It's certainly not 'fast' though :(
I've simply given up on trying to make a dent in policy issues because profit trumps everything else, plus -- as I said -- I just have no spare cycles.
If the, for the ip space issue, main problem can't be solved without policy this seems like abdication, no?
I have taken a different set of tactics to go after criminal activities... policy stuff doesn't work.
also good... except that the only real fix for some of this is policy things, I fear. IP-address issues can't get solved without policy changes, which happen today via community consensus. Domain-name issues have to get hammered out from the top down (with some policy that allows registries to impose change on registrars. This DNS issues may also get resolved with action coming from ICANN (hope springs eternal). -Chris
Current thread:
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure, (continued)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Nick Hilliard (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Christopher Morrow (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Leo Vegoda (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Jon Lewis (Dec 24)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Leo Vegoda (Dec 24)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Paul Ferguson (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Christopher Morrow (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Paul Ferguson (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Christopher Morrow (Dec 22)
- Re: Article on spammers and their infrastructure Paul Ferguson (Dec 22)