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Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers
From: Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:58:38 -0800
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:07 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:21:42 PST, Matthew Petach said:You clearly haven't set up webmail farms to handle half a billion accounts before. ^_^;Yes, but we all already know who those 800 pound gorillas are. If you're doing automagic handling of this sort of DNS data, and not using a regexp to prevent auto-blocking any of the 800 pound gorillas... :)
So, it's uncool to do as long as you're small, but once you're big enough, it's OK to do. I wonder what the crossover point is? If you're an up-and-coming gorilla, but you're only 400 pounds, do you get a regexp and a waiver? What about if you're only 200 pounds? 100 pounds? Are we putting an artificial barrier in place, blocking new entrants into the space by grandfathering existing mail providers, but steadfastly keeping the gate closed against new providers trying to enter the marketplace? Are we guilty of collusion, gathering in virtual spaces like this to agree on how we can put rules in place to prevent any would-be mail hosting companies from being able to compete on a level playing field? At what point does the FTC decide that we've crossed a line in cooperating to keep these newcomers from doing business in our territory? No, I don't think we've crossed the line yet--but it does make me sit up and think about the various permutations and combinations that might arise out of conversations like this, and how they could be misinterpreted by government regulators. I suppose it's best if I make it very abundantly clear that I'm not speaking for my employer in any way, shape, or form here; I'm just ruminating after dinner with a full stomach and an empty head on my own time, just as me, nothing more. Matt
Current thread:
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers, (continued)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers James Hess (Dec 15)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Suresh Ramasubramanian (Dec 15)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Adam Armstrong (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Mike Lieman (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers William Herrin (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Jack Bates (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Matthew Petach (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Jack Bates (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Valdis . Kletnieks (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Matthew Petach (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers James Hess (Dec 15)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Rich Kulawiec (Dec 16)
- Re: Arrogant RBL list maintainers Sean Donelan (Dec 16)