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Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style)
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:46:43 -0800
On 12/08/2009 01:21 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
(Aside: my local library blocks everything but 80 and 443 outbound. I complained to the director; he cited "security". I tried explaining that I knew something about Internet security; he told me that the firm that had installed the system had "done most of the libraries in the county". I translate that as "most of the libraries in the county have broken security policies".)Among the many wonderful things Internet has created in the past 2+ decades, it gave birth to a countless number of "Internet Experts" ... Perhaps a more organized/focused discussion may help kick off an IETF WG to identify and document the problems/needs/requirements and an informational RFC/BCP can be produced, then the "experts" will know that for better security and reliability they don't need to mutilate internet protocols or dismember the Internet.
I'm skeptical to the extreme that IETF can do anything particularly useful here. It's not like there's a lack of protocols -- AAA, tunneling, etc -- that could be bastardized to make some sort of client-side dohickey, or frob on the side something else instead of requiring html, styles sheets, and human eyeballs. Were there some sort of groundswell of such bastardized hacks, then maybe. Mike
Current thread:
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style), (continued)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Michael Thomas (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Steven Bellovin (Dec 07)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Lou Katz (Dec 07)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Joel Esler (Dec 07)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) John R. Levine (Dec 07)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Joel Esler (Dec 07)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Shane Ronan (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Paul Vixie (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Steven Bellovin (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Jorge Amodio (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Michael Thomas (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Paul Vixie (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Joel Esler (Dec 08)
- Re: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Jorge Amodio (Dec 08)
- RE: Breaking the internet (hotels, guestnet style) Leigh Porter (Dec 08)
- Re: FW: news from Google Joe Provo (Dec 03)
- Re: FW: news from Google Joel Jaeggli (Dec 03)
- Re: news from Google Jorge Amodio (Dec 04)