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Re: FCCs RFC for the Definition of Broadband


From: Dorn Hetzel <dhetzel () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 15:57:58 -0400

If all of the POTS attached phones on the "emergency" circuit are on-hook
and there are no incoming calls, then not much power should be required.  If
a phone goes off-hook it should be much easier to detect.  If the network
facing side is up it can power up the POTS circuit when an incoming call is
detected.  Carrier detection for ethernet port power sounds reasonable.

For the best of both world, maybe someone needs to build a "black wall
phone" that is also the NID and integrates rechargeable D-cells (so
flashlight batteries can always be swapped in if the rechargeables are
dead).  The box would then, of course, know whether it was on or off-hook
and could even have a nice display for fiber-carrier status etc...

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Jay Hennigan <jay () west net> wrote:

William Herrin wrote:

 You would suggest treating the Ethernet and POTS ports the same for
power backup purposes until the ethernet port drops its carrier for 60
seconds or so? Maybe do the same for the POTs ports wrt detecting
whether any phones are attached? Nah, that would make far too much
sense; there must be something fatally wrong with the idea.


Detecting whether an idle phone is attached to a POTS port isn't exactly
trivial.  This is more true now with modern phones that don't have
mechanical ringers.

Keeping the ethernet port up on battery if there is link makes sense. For
that matter a "Wake-on-LAN" style polling to power it for a second every 30
to detect carrier would be even better.

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