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RE: the Intercage mess
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk () iname com>
Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:38:05 -0500
I get the feeling, to a certain extent, that there is a certain kind of mob mentality such that since we *can* do it, and they are a little guy, that we should shut them down no matter what. So despite what seems their now honest attempts to clean up, some are bent on still shutting them down (to make an example out of them?). Not that it's not unreasonable 'punishment' for all years of abuse that was inflicted on Internet users, but if this is who "we" are, then I'm a little disappointed. Frank -----Original Message----- From: Paul Ferguson [mailto:fergdawgster () gmail com] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:59 PM To: William Pitcock Cc: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: the Intercage mess -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:52 PM, William Pitcock <nenolod () systeminplace net> wrote:
On Wed, 2008-09-24 at 19:28 -0700, Paul Ferguson wrote:
I think that _more_than_reasonable_ background research, historical record, etc. have met the qualifications of "civilized vernier". The outcry was, and is not, arbitrary.No, but forcing them offline now that they are taking a new approach to handling abuse is ridiculous.
No -- I think that after 5 years of malicious activity, it was overdue. I'm sorry, but your efforts to get the last word here are in vain. Cheers, - - ferg p.s. And by the way, whether the badness has actually been purged from Atrivo/Intercage's IP address space remains to be seen -- previous similar claims have all been false. Time will tell -- may eyes are watching. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.6.3 (Build 3017) wj8DBQFI2v5Oq1pz9mNUZTMRAhaHAJ46OFbpGDap70pAEHlzLwOCiJpRhgCfRgM1 4Riwi5G0vWvtZZWyYt9mgKw= =4BP6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawgster(at)gmail.com ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
Current thread:
- RE: the NANOG mess, (continued)
- RE: the NANOG mess MARTENS, SUSAN, ATTOPS (Sep 25)
- RE: the NANOG mess MARTENS, SUSAN, ATTOPS (Sep 25)
- Re: the Intercage mess Paul Ferguson (Sep 24)
- Re: the Intercage mess Paul Ferguson (Sep 24)
- Re: the Intercage mess Paul Ferguson (Sep 24)
- Re: the Intercage mess Paul Ferguson (Sep 24)
- Re: the Intercage mess William Pitcock (Sep 24)
- Re: the Intercage mess Paul Ferguson (Sep 24)
- Re: the Intercage mess Rich Kulawiec (Sep 25)
- Re: the Intercage mess Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Sep 25)
- RE: the Intercage mess Frank Bulk (Sep 27)
- Re: the Intercage mess Stephen Sprunk (Sep 24)
- obvious intent (Re: the Intercage mess) Paul Vixie (Sep 24)
- Re: obvious intent (Re: the Intercage mess) Paul Bennett (Sep 25)
- RE: the Intercage mess James Ashton (Sep 25)
- Re: the Intercage mess Eric Brunner-Williams (Sep 24)
- a vernier of civilization... Jo Rhett (Sep 24)
- Re: a vernier of civilization... Marshall Eubanks (Sep 25)
- RE: a vernier of civilization... Tomas L. Byrnes (Sep 25)
- Re: a vernier of civilization... Randy Bush (Sep 25)
- Re: a vernier of civilization... Marshall Eubanks (Sep 25)