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Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer
From: Andrew D Kirch <trelane () trelane net>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 16:49:31 -0400
Considering the years of abuse, DNSBL listings, ROKSO listings, further abuse, and silence at the abuse switch, I _CERTAINLY_ would not send Atrivo abuse reports, I would send them to the upstreams instead. Considering the almost 40 page white paper produced last month on the abuse from Atrivo, for me to change this practice, I would require: * a rapid, and verifiable response from Atrivo here over some period of time exceeding several months, and continuing thereafter,
* the clearing of SBL/ROKSO records, and * a general reduction of abuse eminating from Atrivo. Andrew Emil Kacperski wrote:
Matt, Don't believe everything you read. I have unfortunately been a target over the years because I rented machines to Esthost. But the stories made up are way out there. It's all very easy a dedicated server / customer relationship - nothing more. Never did I ignore anymore from the abuse community. Go ahead and find me a IP address that did any spam or anything. You won't find it, I can't remember the last time I got any Spamcop complaints. Not even going to mention Spamhaus because we all know there abuse. "We asked a handful of Intercage's most vocal critics if they sent take down requests to Kacperski. None said yes. "In his defense, what may have finally happened is that malware researchers stopped bothering to report" abusive sites," Eckelberry says." None said YES! That pretty much sums it all up. Maybe I could of reached out more, I guess that was my mistake. But it surely is impossible to deal with if you have to deal with people like John Reid.Thanks!Contact: Emil Kacperski Company: Intercage Inc. - Atrivo Dedicated Servers San Francisco Datacenter E-Mail: emil () intercage com Phone: 925-550-3947 ICQ: 23531098
Current thread:
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Emil Kacperski (Sep 21)
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer James Thomas (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Paul Wall (Sep 22)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Emil Kacperski (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Matt Jonkman (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Emil Kacperski (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Patrick W . Gilmore (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Andrew D Kirch (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer William Pitcock (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Matt Jonkman (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Russell Mitchell (Sep 21)
- RE: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer James Thomas (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Gadi Evron (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Andrew D Kirch (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Andrew D Kirch (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Russell Mitchell (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Matt Jonkman (Sep 21)
- Re: Atrivo/Intercage: NO Upstream depeer Andrew D Kirch (Sep 21)
(Thread continues...)