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Re: Sprint / Cogent
From: Brian Raaen <braaen () zcorum com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:03:07 -0400
I would have to agree with Alex that if behavior like this doesn't stop that the Fed would get involved(regardless of which party is in office). Is this type of behavior called 'peer pressure', maybe there are care groups to help these victims. Overall... it is one thing if Sprint and Cogent get into a shouting match, it would be a whole other ballpark if say AT&T, Qwest, Verizon or Time Warner de-peered. ---------------------- Brian Raaen Network Engineer braaen () zcorum com On Friday 31 October 2008, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
So why do SPs keep depeering Cogent? Serious question, why? I'm not aware of any Intercage-like issues with them. I've actually considered them as a potential upstream when we expand into a market they serve.Because some SP's still have a sour taste in their mouth about what Cogent
did to the marketplace when they started. If you recall, they were the most disturbing force in the transit wars (not to be confused with the cola or fast-food wars), when they came out with $3,000 fast-Ethernets, and everyone else was enjoying $100+/meg. In my opinion, this was the free market at work, and look -- the market as continued to thrive with plenty of competition.
Not being a customer of either of these guys, I could care less about this.
While Sprint most certainly has their reasons, I think generally speaking people care less about this sort of thing these days. 1239 is certainly not the force that they used to be, and they should realize it and stop being stupid.
Why do I say stupid? Because, if companies like Sprint continue to do things like what Sprint is
doing, this will certainly lead to being noticed by legislators, and the next thing we know we will have federally regulated peering or backbone network operating. I can see it now, the Bureau of Peering will be part of the Federal Networking Committee.
Does anyone want that? I certainly don't. Again, not because it would overly
affect me, it's just more regulation which we don't need.
I'll crawl back under my rock now.
Current thread:
- RE: Sprint / Cogent, (continued)
- RE: Sprint / Cogent Nick Hilliard (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Justin Shore (Oct 31)
- RE: Sprint / Cogent Paul Stewart (Oct 31)
- RE: Sprint / Cogent Alex Rubenstein (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Larry Sheldon (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Larry Sheldon (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Jared Mauch (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Marshall Eubanks (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Kurt Erik Lindqvist (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Justin Shore (Oct 31)
- RE: Sprint / Cogent Nick Hilliard (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Brian Raaen (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Christopher Morrow (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Nick Hilliard (Oct 31)
- RE: Sprint / Cogent Randy Epstein (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Majdi S. Abbas (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 31)
- Re: Sprint / Cogent Elmar K. Bins (Oct 31)