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Re: Fwd: cnn.com - Homeland Security seeks cyber counterattack system (Einstein 3.0)
From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2008 14:37:44 -0400
On Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:30:11 BST, n3td3v said:
You guys are living in cloud cuckoo land. The rogue government wouldn't have their bot nets in home computers that you could shut down easily.
Which is easier to shut down, an attack coming from a relatively small number of /16s that belong to the government, or one coming from the same number of source nodes scattered *all* over Comcast and Verizon and BT and a few other major providers? Hint 1: Consider the number of entry points into your network for the two cases, especially if you are heavily peered with one or more of the source ISPs. Consider also the "shoot self in foot" outcome if you decide to block *all* of Comcast, Verizon, BT and the others.... Hint 2: If botnets in home computers were so easy to shut down, why are there so many miscreants still using them for nefarious purposes?
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