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Re: an over-the-top data center
From: Måns Nilsson <mansaxel () besserwisser org>
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:03:31 +0100
--On fredag, fredag 28 nov 2008 17.10.14 +0000 Simon Waters <simonw () zynet net> wrote:
I'm thinking physical security is over done in some data centers. Sure it is a great idea to make sure no one steals the hardware, but much beyond that and allowing in expected personnel only, it soon gets to being counter productive. I was once back-up for a facility so "secure" I never got to visit it?! I'm not saying I might not have been that useful if I was ever called on to provide support - guess we'll never know. Although for that one I did at least happen to know where it was despite it not being sign posted.
There are places whose location we do not talk about, where important stuff gets done, like peering. In Sweden, the Post and Telecommunications Authority has oversight over a number of first-rate data centres that are designed for those bits and pieces of infrastructure that need to work under all circumstances. Typically they rent space to telcos and ISP's for things like important central systems, backbone routers / transmission etc. The largest Internet exchange in Sweden, Netnod, has its five largest sites in these facilities. These data centres are designed to Swedish military command center specifications (not like Cheyenne Mountain but significantly better than, say, a Minuteman site) to withstand a number of adverse conditions, like near-misses from nuclear weapons, prolonged power outages, poison gas clouds, etc. Typically, they are buried in bedrock close to major cities. Exactly where is of course known in the business, but not so well that it is OK to post their locations on Nanog. Yes, we've got excellent bedrock in Sweden, and we use it ;-) -- Måns Nilsson M A C H I N A I left my WALLET in the BATHROOM!!
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- Re: an over-the-top data center Måns Nilsson (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Raoul Bhatia [IPAX] (Nov 28)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Buhrmaster, Gary (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Suresh Ramasubramanian (Nov 28)
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- RE: an over-the-top data center Howard C. Berkowitz (Nov 28)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Gadi Evron (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Craig Holland (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Patrick Giagnocavo (Nov 28)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Scott Morris (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Simon Waters (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Måns Nilsson (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Jean-François Mezei (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Joe Abley (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Warren Kumari (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 30)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Andrew D Kirch (Nov 30)
- RE: an over-the-top data center Tomas L. Byrnes (Nov 30)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Niels Bakker (Nov 30)
- Re: an over-the-top data center Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 30)
- Re: an over-the-top data center William Allen Simpson (Nov 28)
- Re: an over-the-top data center J. Oquendo (Nov 28)