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Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage


From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 10:10:03 -0600 (CST)

Nice interpretation of my statement..

A reasonable effort and a contractual guarantee are two different  
things, a reasonable effort could be defined as economicly feasable  
for instance.

"Economically feasible?"

If it isn't economically feasible, then repair your pricing model so that
it becomes economically feasible.

In some locales, it is actually illegal to sell for below cost.

My point was that in Cogents case this is really a force majeure  
situation and in Sprints case unless you have a contract that defines  
an SLA with delivery to "the entire Internet" or something similar  
you do not really have case to break your contract or sue due to the  
de-peering as a breach of contract from Sprints side..

So each and every customer has to negotiate with the Internet Service
Provider to guarantee access to "the entire Internet"?  You can't just
approach an "Internet Service Provider" and expect that they provide
you with the capability to connect to the Internet?

When was the last time you went to a car dealership, bought a car, and
they didn't include the gas tank, or tires, or seatbelts?  "Oh, yeah,
we've determined that it's economically more feasible to provide your
car without a steering wheel.  You can buy a different brand of car across
the street if you happened to need a steering wheel."

Do you begin to understand how retarded this sort of thing sounds to the
average consumer?

... JG
-- 
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
"We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I
won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN)
With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.


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