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Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage
From: George William Herbert <gherbert () retro com>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:51:35 -0800
"Justin M. Streiner" <streiner () cluebyfour org> wrote:
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Matthew Kaufman wrote:Ah yes, I suspect we can get all the network operators here to agree that any customer of another ISP should buy a second connection "just in case". Maybe this breakage will turn out to be the best way for everyone to double their customer base overnight. But seriously, it shouldn't be necessary to have two connections at work, two connections at home, two connections for each mobile device, just to ensure that when large providers stop working together you can still reach what you need to reach.No, but the providers who provide those connections should be multihomed. If they're not, I'd consider switching providers. Simple as that.
As with fiber, the tendency for multiple diverse upstreams to be groomed together, and / or end up through the same physical pipe up the layers some, is nonzero and in some cases significantly high. The only way to actually reliably defeat that risk is to walk your ISP up the size chart to Tier 1 and total control of what you talk to. That was a much more attractive path in the mid-late 90s than it is today. -george william herbert gherbert () retro com
Current thread:
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage, (continued)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage George William Herbert (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Justin M. Streiner (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage HRH Sven Olaf Prinz von CyberBunker-Kamphuis MP (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage George William Herbert (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Randy Bush (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Charles Wyble (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Randy Bush (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Matthew Petach (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Joe Greco (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage George William Herbert (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage William Warren (Nov 02)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Larry Sheldon (Nov 02)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Joe Greco (Nov 02)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Lamar Owen (Nov 03)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Patrick Giagnocavo (Nov 02)
- RE: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Rod Beck (Nov 02)
- RE: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Mikael Abrahamsson (Nov 02)
- Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Larry Sheldon (Nov 02)
- RE: routing around Sprint's depeering damage Daniel Senie (Nov 02)