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Re: routing around Sprint's depeering damage


From: George William Herbert <gherbert () retro com>
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:51:35 -0800


"Justin M. Streiner" <streiner () cluebyfour org> wrote:
On Sun, 2 Nov 2008, Matthew Kaufman wrote:
Ah yes, I suspect we can get all the network operators here to agree that any 
customer of another ISP should buy a second connection "just in case". Maybe 
this breakage will turn out to be the best way for everyone to double their 
customer base overnight.

But seriously, it shouldn't be necessary to have two connections at work, two 
connections at home, two connections for each mobile device, just to ensure 
that when large providers stop working together you can still reach what you 
need to reach.

No, but the providers who provide those connections should be multihomed. 
If they're not, I'd consider switching providers.  Simple as that.

As with fiber, the tendency for multiple diverse upstreams to be
groomed together, and / or end up through the same physical pipe up
the layers some, is nonzero and in some cases significantly high.

The only way to actually reliably defeat that risk is to walk your
ISP up the size chart to Tier 1 and total control of what you talk to.

That was a much more attractive path in the mid-late 90s than it is today.


-george william herbert
gherbert () retro com



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