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Re: [NANOG] US DoD receives chunked IPv6 /13 (14x /22 but nottotally consecutive)


From: Warren Kumari <warren () kumari net>
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 14:41:43 -0400


On May 16, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Robert D. Scott wrote:

OH, You mean like putting a sniper in a bunch of trees. They know that
tactic well.  :)

Yup -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmMJntSfQI

W



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-----Original Message-----
From: Dorn Hetzel [mailto:dhetzel () gmail com]
Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 1:59 PM
To: Jeroen Massar
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: [NANOG] US DoD receives chunked IPv6 /13 (14x /22 but
nottotally consecutive)


Perhaps it is an attempt to make their address space so sparsely  
populated
that it's close to impossible to find a host without knowing it's  
address in
the first place?

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Jeroen Massar <jeroen () unfix org>  
wrote:

Hi folks,

As everybody is a big fan of securing their networks against foreign
attacks, be aware that the US DoD has been assigned 14 /22's, IPv6  
that
is, not IPv4, they all come from a single IPv6 /13 though, which is  
what
they apparently asked for in the beginning, at least that was the  
rumor,
well they got what they wanted.

I've recorded it into GRH as a single /13 though, as that is what  
it is,
and I am not going to bother whois'ing and entering the 14 separate
entries there, as that is useless, especially as they will most  
likely
never appear in the global routing tables anyway.

Depending on your love for the US, you might want to add special  
rules
in your network to be able to easily detect Cyber Attacks and other  
such
things towards that address space, to be able to better serve your
country, may that be the US or any other country for that matter.

I am of course wondering why ARIN gave 1 organization 14 separate / 
22's,
even though they are recorded exactly the same, just different  
prefixes
and netnames and it is effectively one huge /13. They could easily  
have
been recorded as that one /13, it is not like eg Canada (no other
countries that fall under ARIN now is there) will get a couple of the
chunks of remaining space in between there. By assigning them  
separate
/22's, they effectively are stating that it is good to fragment the
address space and by having them recorded in whois, also that  
announcing
more specifics from that /13 is just fine.

The other fun question is of course what a single organization has  
to do
with (2^(48-13)=) 34.359.738.368, yes indeed, 34 billion /48's which
cover 2.251.799.813.685.248 /64's which is a number that I can't even
pronounce. According to Wikipedia the US only has a mere population  
of
304,080,000, that means that every US citizen can get a 1000+ /48's  
from
their DoD, thus maybe every nuclear warhead and every bullet is  
getting
their own /48 or something to be able to justify for that amount of
address space. At least this gives the opportunity to hardcode that
block out of hardware if you want to avoid it being ever used by the
publicly known part of the US DoD. I wouldn't mind seeing the request
form that can justify this amount of address space though, must be  
a lot
of fun.

Now back to your regular NANOG schedule....

Greets,
   Jeroen

(who will hide himself in a nice Swiss nuclear bunker till the flames
are all gone ;)

1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States
  which points to: http://www.census.gov/population/www/popclockus.html


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