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Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack)
From: Jeff Aitken <jaitken () aitken com>
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:08:07 +0000
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 03:48:07PM +0530, Glen Kent wrote:
Do ISPs (PTA, AboveNet, etc) that "unintentionally" hijack someone else IP address space, ever get penalized in *any* form?
Not usually. I remember an incident (while working at AboveNet, ironically) back in 98/99 where 701 "accidentally" announced some of our address space. The reason in that case was that a customer who had left 701 under questionable circumstances signed up for service with us... and 701 wanted to punish them. It got at least as far as threats of legal action before they stopped. Not sure if anyone who has more details still reads this list... rs, ser, or dlr might remember more; I don't know who was involved on the uu side of things.
So, is there anything that can be done to discourage such mishaps?
Capture data and sue for damages seems to be about the only recourse now. Of course, that can be extremely difficult when you're talking about organizations on opposite sides of the planet, different jurisdictions, etc. IMHO a better use of our time would be to solve the underlying technical issue(s). Whether it's soBGP, sBGP, or something else, we need to figure out how to make one of these proposals work and get it implemented. --Jeff
Current thread:
- Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Glen Kent (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Jeff Aitken (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Larry J. Blunk (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Pekka Savola (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 17)
- Re: Operators Penalized? (was Re: Kenyan Route Hijack) Joe Maimon (Mar 17)