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Re: Kenyan Route Hijack
From: Paul Vixie <vixie () isc org>
Date: 17 Mar 2008 04:12:13 +0000
john () sackheads org (John Payne) writes:
I think it was Abovenet that blackholed a /24 of (I want to say MAPS, but that's not right) an anti-spam-RBL sometime pre-1999?ORBS, and the only reason it became such a big deal was that Abovenet was the upstream of ORBS' upstream. And that's something people still haven't gotten over.
this was a simple AUP violation, blown way out of proportion because two of abovenet's executives were also owners of MAPS. without that element, this would just have been a matter of ORBS doing forced open relay scans of the internet and especially of abovenet's other customers, and noone would have been shocked or surprised to see abovenet blackhole them, citing chapter and verse of the abovenet AUP, as well as many equivilent examples. i think, at this stage and at this date, that bringing up the ORBS/abovenet debacle constitutes a "canard", and should be avoided, for the good of all. -- Paul Vixie
Current thread:
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Paul Ferguson (Mar 15)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Glen Kent (Mar 15)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Christopher Morrow (Mar 15)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Kameron Gasso (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Alastair Johnson (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Jon Lewis (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Christopher Morrow (Mar 15)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack John Payne (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Paul Vixie (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Suresh Ramasubramanian (Mar 17)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Ross Vandegrift (Mar 17)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Glen Kent (Mar 15)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Paul Ferguson (Mar 15)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Felix Bako (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Matt (Mar 16)
- AW: Kenyan Route Hijack Gunther Stammwitz (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Barry Shein (Mar 16)
- Re: Kenyan Route Hijack Felix Bako (Mar 16)