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Re: So why don't US citizens get this?
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:39:20 -0400
[Sorry to bring this back towards the topic at hand, but....] On Jul 26, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, bmanning () vacation karoshi com wrote:
that said, can I get FIOS w/o any other Verizon crap? I just want the fiber transport to an exchange... want my own ISP/peering, not theirs. They wont sell it.
Anyone find a 'Commodity' seller of IP connectivity that will provide that ?I haven't in a Number of years now . Imo , it appears to be company cowardice . But then again alot can go wrong even if you filter correctly . But I'd really like to find a provider that 'Can' . Just like the little train .
First, I should say that I am not defending VZ or any other company.However, I don't think it's fair to claim VZ sells FIOS and therefore should also sell dark. The two items are vastly different services. I seriously doubt "cowardice" is stopping VZ from giving bill fiber. Hell, they'd likely make a LOT more money off selling him dark than selling him FIOS.
There are lots of providers in major metros (where I know bill lives) that sell things like 10 Mbps point-to-point circuits. But dark fiber is frequently hard to come by even between two telco hotels in the same city. Asking for dark fiber from $RANDOM_HOUSE to, well, anywhere, that's going to be just a little out of the ordinary.
So if you want to complain about something, complain about something reasonable. Lord knows the telecos have given us enough targets.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- So why don't US citizens get this? natalidel (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Max Tulyev (Jul 27)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Guy_Shields (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? bmanning (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Mr. James W. Laferriere (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 27)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Joe Greco (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? D'Arcy J.M. Cain (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Joe Greco (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Fred Baker (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Dave Crocker (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Jean-François Mezei (Jul 27)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? bmanning (Jul 26)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Joe Greco (Jul 27)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? D'Arcy J.M. Cain (Jul 27)
- Re: So why don't US citizens get this? Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (Jul 27)
- Re: OT: Free Market D'Arcy J.M. Cain (Jul 27)