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RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:06:39 +0100 (CET)
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008, Frank Bulk wrote:
Except that upstreams are not at 27 Mbps (http://i.cmpnet.com/commsdesign/csd/2002/jun02/imedia-fig1.gif show that you would be using 32 QAM at 6.4 MHz). The majority of MSOs are at 16-QAM at 3.2 MHz, which is about 10 Mbps. We just took over two systems that were at QPSK at 3.2 Mbps, which is about 5 Mbps.
Ok, so the wikipedia article <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docsis> is heavily simplified? Any chance someone with good knowledge of this could update the page to be more accurate?
And upstreams are usually sized not to be more than 250 users per upstream port. So that would be a 10:1 oversubscription on upstream, not too bad, by my reckoning. The 1000 you are thinking of is probably 1000 users per downstream power, and there is a usually a 1:4 to 1:6 ratio of downstream to upstream ports.
250 users sharing 10 megabit/s would mean 40 kilobit/s average utilization which to me seems very tight. Or is this "250 apartments" meaning perhaps 40% subscribe to the service indicating that those "250" really are 100 and that the average utilization then can be 100 kilobit/s upstream?
With these figures I can really see why companies using HFC/Coax have a problem with P2P, the technical implementation is not really suited for the application.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic..., (continued)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Joe Greco (Jan 14)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... William Herrin (Jan 14)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Matt Palmer (Jan 14)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Mark Smith (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Adrian Chadd (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Brandon Galbraith (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 15)
- RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Frank Bulk (Jan 15)
- RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 15)
- RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Frank Bulk (Jan 15)
- RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 15)
- RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Frank Bulk (Jan 16)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Joe Greco (Jan 14)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Mark Smith (Jan 15)
- Off Topic Rod Beck (Jan 15)
- Re: Off Topic Christopher Morrow (Jan 15)
- Re: Off Topic Alex Pilosov (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Barry Shein (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Joe Greco (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... David E. Smith (Jan 15)
- RE: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Geo. (Jan 15)
- Re: FW: ISPs slowing P2P traffic... Mike Lewinski (Jan 15)