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Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit
From: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb () cs columbia edu>
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:17:47 +0000
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 12:18:10 -0800 David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:
Michael, On Feb 18, 2008, at 10:15 AM, <michael.dillon () bt com> <michael.dillon () bt com > wrote:We cannot possibly hope to create a market within the next two years which is beneficial to the Internet network operations industry.A market will exist whether or not "we" want to create it and it doesn't matter how long lived it is. Without some form of regulation (a bit hard since it would need to be applied globally), it is almost certain it will be extremely painful and folks who "shouldn't" make lots of money will. So it goes.
Yah. A market exists today, though it's perforce sub rosa. An interesting operational question is how to prevent deaggregation as a result of a market. If, say, a company isn't using half of its address space, could it sell that half, to several other parties? Can that be prevented by market means? See http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb/papers/piara/index.html for a paper I and some others wrote some years ago on these topics. --Steve Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
Current thread:
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit, (continued)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Stephane Bortzmeyer (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Owen DeLong (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Stephane Bortzmeyer (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit John Lee (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Rod Beck (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Brandon Galbraith (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Rod Beck (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit David Conrad (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Eliot Lear (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Steven M. Bellovin (Feb 19)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit David Conrad (Feb 19)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Geoff Huston (Feb 19)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Rod Beck (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit michael.dillon (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit David Conrad (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Iljitsch van Beijnum (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Rod Beck (Feb 18)
- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Tom Vest (Feb 18)
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- Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Tom Vest (Feb 18)
- RE: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit Raymond Macharia (Feb 18)