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Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior
From: Danny McPherson <danny () tcb net>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:42:46 -0600
On Aug 28, 2008, at 3:47 PM, Deepak Jain wrote:
We can go into lots of reasons why the Internet runs this way. I think we can all agree 1) Its amazing it runs as well as it does, and 2) No one has clearly articulated a financial reason for any large organizations to significantly change their interconnection methodologies over the current BCP [that exceeds the costs of doing so].Until either of those assertions change, the status quo will essentially remain.
Well, there's also been a bit of a chicken and egg problem here - as no formally verifiable authoritative source for who is authorized to originate what IP address space has ever existed, and until that happens, you can't secure the routing system. Fortunately, the RPKI work will address this, and some of the RIRs are working on RPKI implementations now. If there are ways the IRRs can be populated using this information and non-RPKI derived updates can be considered less preferable (whatever that means), then we can get to a better place with the IRRs as a stop gap until a secure routing protocol can actually be deployed. However, without that as a stepping stone, it's an awfully large leap from RPKI directly into a secure inter-domain routing protocol. -danny
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- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Gadi Evron (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Anton Kapela (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Steven M. Bellovin (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Joe Greco (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Randy Bush (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Gadi Evron (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Alex Pilosov (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Deepak Jain (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Danny McPherson (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Gadi Evron (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Florian Weimer (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Adrian Chadd (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 29)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 30)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior isabel dias (Aug 30)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Florian Weimer (Aug 30)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior jim deleskie (Aug 30)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Nathan Ward (Aug 29)