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RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior
From: <michael.dillon () bt com>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:22:21 +0100
I stand by my assertion that most people do not run traceroutes all day and watch for it to change. That some people are diligent does not change the fact the overwhelming majority of people are not. Or the fact that with the right placement of equipment (read "luck") and cooperation of networks involved (read "laziness"), even a traceroute won't show any change besides additional latency.
Bingo! Latency is the magic word and that *IS* measured by a lot more people than do traceroutes. Unless the attackers are lucky enough or smart enough to do their dirty work from a server that is reasonably closely colocated to the router that they exploit, you *WILL* see latency changes. It would be wise to change the process for investigating latency increases to include examining routers for this BGP rerouting exploit. --Michael Dillon
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- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior John Lee (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 27)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior John Lee (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Adrian Chadd (Aug 27)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior John Lee (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 27)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior John Lee (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Jim Popovitch (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 27)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior michael.dillon (Aug 28)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior John Lee (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 27)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior michael.dillon (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick Giagnocavo (Aug 27)
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- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Hank Nussbacher (Aug 27)
- RE: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Jon Lewis (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Eric Spaeth (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Colin Alston (Aug 27)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Suresh Ramasubramanian (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Patrick W. Gilmore (Aug 28)
- Re: Revealed: The Internet's well known BGP behavior Anton Kapela (Aug 28)