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Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch () muada com>
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 23:51:27 +0200
On 27-sep-2007, at 23:25, Randy Bush wrote:
and the unscalable tunneling schemes are making a mess, in architecture,in implementation, in user experience. the latter is causing folk to turn off ipv6.
So run IPv6 natively and your tunneling issues are history.
there is a problem that the ivtf
IVTF? That sounds like a fertility treatment...
is dominated by the very vendors whoare holding up deployment by incomplete, poorly performing, expensive to scale products. and adding complexity and features is not helping thiseither.
Strange. What I keep hearing is "we can't possibly deploy IPv6 until it has <insert favorite IPv4 feature>". (And then when that feature becomes available somehow IPv6 still isn't deployed.)
The simple truth is that IPv6 will be widely deployed as soon as it reduces cost / increases income / enables features that can't be had otherwise. The rest is just details which we generally get 80% right, which makes for an annoying 20% but that's life.
Current thread:
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6), (continued)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Steven M. Bellovin (Sep 26)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 26)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Jari Arkko (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Jari Arkko (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Fred Baker (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Fred Baker (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Fred Baker (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Kevin Oberman (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Alain Durand (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Jari Arkko (Sep 27)
- Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Randy Bush (Sep 27)
- Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Iljitsch van Beijnum (Sep 28)
- Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6) Alain Durand (Sep 28)