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RE: Route table growth and hardware limits...talk to the filter
From: Jon Lewis <jlewis () lewis org>
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 07:51:02 -0400 (EDT)
On Sat, 8 Sep 2007, Lincoln Dale wrote:
what i think it boils down to is that many folks seem to run default-free because they can, because its cool, because its what tier-1 folks do, because (insert cool/uber reason why here), but not necessarily because they HAVE TO.
Consider a regional or local ISP providing BGP to a customer. The customer also has a connection to a "Tier 1". The customer may start asking questions when they notice they get 250k routes from one provider and only 50k to 80k less routes from you.
I suppose some "Tier 1"s got away with this in the past though...so maybe there are acceptable answers.
even if you're a content-provider in North America and want to ensure an "optimal path" of traffic, generally speaking, you could accept prefixes (as-is) from ARIN allocations but for (say) APNIC and RIPE do either some degree of filtering or just push it via a default.
I actually suggested this yesterday to a friend who runs an ISP and has just run into his 7500s running out of RAM and crashing when turning up a new transit provider with full BGP routes. Filtering the APNIC and RIPE regions and adding a default will very likely let him fit "mostly full routes" on his router and put off the inevitible fork-lift upgrade a while longer.
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