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Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 19:12:35 -0500 (CDT)
In a message written on Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 03:21:09PM -0400, Joe Provo wr= ote:Content is irrelevent. BT is a protocol-person's dream and an ISP nightmare. The bulk of the slim profit margin exists in taking=20 advantage of stat-mux oversubscription. BT blows that out of the=20 water.I'm a bit confused by your statement. Are you saying it's more cost effective for ISP's to carry downloads thousands of miles across the US before giving them to the end user than it is to allow a local end user to "upload" them to other local end users?
It's quite possible that I've completely missed it, but I hadn't seen many examples of P2P protocols where any effort was made to locate "local" users and prefer them. In some cases, this may happen due to the type of content, but I'd guess it to be rare. Am I missing some new development? If it isn't being transferred locally, then the ISP is being stuck with the pain of carrying a download thousands of miles, probably from a peering (or worse, transit) with another ISP that has also had to carry it some distance. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
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