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Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads
From: Sean Figgins <sean () labrats us>
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 14:06:19 -0600
Mike Lewinski wrote:
I wonder what happens to these network police appliances (Sandvine, Packeteer etc) when the P2Ps implement encryption and tunnel it all over 443/tcp?
Most vendors claim to be able to look into the payload and determine that it is p2p traffic instead of http/https traffic. I know I have looked at several of these vendors myself, and most of them did not have hardware that was even safe or reasonable to deploy, as certain traffic would send the unit's CPU towards 100% with only a measly 1 megabit of traffic. I personally eliminated on of these vendors from consideration this way.
Sandvine seemed to have a pretty decent hardware solution when I was still in that space 2 years ago, with only a few concerns. I'm sure that they have vastly improved. They were also less "religious" about 99% of the internet traffic being p2p, like some vendors were.
Still, while I support the ISP's right to manage and shapre traffic, I still think this is a poor tactic. This is like your telephone company hanging up your call, regardles if the content of the call was a drug deal, a call to grandma, or a call to e911. It's just not morally right.
-Sean Sorry about the double post. (Please respond only through the list)
Current thread:
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads, (continued)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads John C. A. Bambenek (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Jack Bates (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Martin Hannigan (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Mike Lewinski (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Mark Owen (Oct 19)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Clinton Popovich (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Eric Spaeth (Oct 19)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Scott Berkman (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Mike Lewinski (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Peter Dambier (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Sean Figgins (Oct 19)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Scott Berkman (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Justin M. Streiner (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Randy Bush (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Adrian Chadd (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Patrick W. Gilmore (Oct 20)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads John C. A. Bambenek (Oct 19)
- Re: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Mark Owen (Oct 19)
- RE: Comcast blocking p2p uploads Clinton Popovich (Oct 19)