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Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity?
From: Joe Greco <jgreco () ns sol net>
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 14:32:17 -0500 (CDT)
On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote:There can be a lot of ambiguity. Just because something appears to be a crime does not make it so.This thread is about criminal activity, not supposed criminal activity.
Well, in many parts of the world, criminal activity becomes such once a judge determines it to be. Until that happens, it is "alleged". If the specific issue in question was already found by a judge to be criminal, then I offer my apologies, for I completely missed that. Otherwise, I would tend to read your messages as being "something which [you] believe to be criminal". Some people, for example, believe - incorrectly - that certain types of e-mail spam are {legal, illegal, pick one}. Their opinions are irrelevant. If the "criminal activity" in question is such that the OP feels a need to gather evidence and report it to the police, then I suspect that this issue hasn't been before a judge, and is instead "alleged criminal activity that I wish abuse@$foo would take care of on the basis of the allegations and their own analysis of the situation." That doesn't make it any less serious, of course, but does change the way you need to look at the situation. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net "We call it the 'one bite at the apple' rule. Give me one chance [and] then I won't contact you again." - Direct Marketing Ass'n position on e-mail spam(CNN) With 24 million small businesses in the US alone, that's way too many apples.
Current thread:
- How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Paul Ferguson (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Sean Donelan (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Gadi Evron (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Joe Greco (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Gadi Evron (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Sean Donelan (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Gadi Evron (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Joe Greco (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Mike Lewinski (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 13)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Mike Lewinski (Oct 13)
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- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Florian Weimer (Oct 15)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Mike Lewinski (Oct 15)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Sean Donelan (Oct 12)
- Re: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Joe Greco (Oct 12)
- RE: How to Handle ISPs Who Turn a Blind Eye to Criminal Activity? Eric Van Tol (Oct 13)