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RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet
From: "Fred Reimer" <freimer () ctiusa com>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:40:07 -0500
Horrid? Strong words. What's horrid about allowing an ISP to prefer that their BGP traffic has a higher priority than end-user traffic, so that the whole net doesn't fail when pipes are overprescribed, or there is a virus/worm on the net? What's horrid about allowing an end-user to decide which of its traffic should be dropped first, if by definition some traffic HAS to be dropped due to over-prescription? If you think it's horrid, then I'd like some examples, because I suspect that given certain specific scenarios you'd probably agree with what should happen (as neutral as can possibly be managed, and transparent). Thanks, Fred Reimer, CISSP, CCNP, CQS-VPN, CQS-ISS Senior Network Engineer Coleman Technologies, Inc. 954-298-1697
-----Original Message----- From: John Musbach [mailto:johnmusbach () gmail com] Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 10:31 AM To: Fred Reimer; nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet On Nov 27, 2007 7:18 AM, Fred Reimer <freimer () ctiusa com> wrote:The only discriminatory behavior that should be allowed is for QoS, to treat specific types or traffic inadifferent manner to give preferential treatment tospecificclassifications of traffic.I myself and I'm sure most others prefer net neutrality to the horrid alternative you're suggesting -- Best Regards, John Musbach
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- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet John Musbach (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Roland Dobbins (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Joel Jaeggli (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Florian Weimer (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet John Payne (Nov 27)
- RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Fred Reimer (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 27)
- RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Fred Reimer (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet John Musbach (Nov 27)
- RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Fred Reimer (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Valdis . Kletnieks (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Jared Mauch (Nov 27)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Sean Donelan (Nov 27)
- RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet michael.dillon (Nov 28)
- [no subject] Michael Balasko (Nov 28)
- Re: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet John Musbach (Nov 27)
- RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Jerry Pasker (Nov 27)
- [admin] RE: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet Alex Pilosov (Nov 27)
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- Re: [Nanog-futures] nanog AUP wrt subject evolution (was: Creating a crystal clear and pure Internet) Martin Hannigan (Nov 27)
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