RE: 24x7 Support Strategies

["Farrell,Bob" <bobf () studentsonly com>]

Agreed, but apples and oranges to me in that example. I had an engineer that worked for me, then left our org. He spent 
over 70K in equipment and training out of his own pocket. He failed the CCIE lab 3 times and finally got it as he kept 
trying on the fourth attempt. He now holds a position in NYC, makes a great living, and I still get accolades from the 
company he now works for how lucky they were to get him, and what a great job he is doing. His job entails a very high 
level of responsibility. I think certs provide two things. One, the ability to show that you know what you are doing ( 
agreed grey area on that one ) , but also the commitment for one to better themselves..... someone I would look at in 
the hiring process first. Any/every applicant still goes through a rigorous interview process, and the uncertified 
sometimes win out. Depends on the applicant.

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Randy Bush [mailto:randy () psg com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:11 PM
To: Farrell,Bob
Cc: surfer () mauigateway com; nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: 24x7 Support Strategies

Farrell,Bob wrote:
> You would if you knew how hard the tests were. ( not counting
> Microsoft of course)

the tests for a phd in physics are hard.  and a very noted net engineer
we all know and deeply respect passed them (and did the thesis) and got
their phd in physics.  but, as they said just a couple of weeks ago, and
on this very subject, "would you want me running a nuclear reactor?"
hell no!

randy