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Re: Google wants to be your Internet


From: "Christian Kuhtz" <kuhtzch () corp earthlink net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:23:54 +0000

Dan,

there's one very big assumption in your statement: cost of BPL for metering is economical or workable in the regulatory 
model.  Forget value added services for a moment, the cost often cannot be burdened on the rate payer (regulatory 
constraint).  So, funding this sort of effort is non-trivial.

Best regards,
Christian

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-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Golding <dgolding () t1r com>
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:52:45 
To:Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net>
Cc:nanog () merit edu
Subject: Re: Google wants to be your Internet

 
One interesting point - they plan to use Broadband over Power Line (BPL) technology to do this. Meter monitoring is the 
killer app for BPL, which can then also be used for home broadband, Meter reading is one of the top costs and trickiest 
problems for utilities. 

- Dan
 


On Jan 22, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Niels Bakker wrote:



* nanog () shankland org: <mailto:nanog () shankland org>  (Jim Shankland) [Mon 22 Jan 2007, 18:21 CET]: 
"Travis H." <travis+ml-nanog () subspacefield org: <mailto:travis+ml-nanog () subspacefield org> > writes: 
IIRC, someone representing the electrical companies approached someone representing network providers, possibly the 
IETF, to ask about the feasibility of using IP to monitor the electrical meters throughout the US....
The response was "yeah, well, maybe with IPv6". 


Which is nonsense.  More gently, it's only true if you not only want to use IP to monitor electrical meters, but want 
the use the (global) Internet to monitor electrical meters.


I'd love to hear the business case for why my home electrical meter needs to be directly IP-addressable from an 
Internet cafe in Lagos. 


It's not nonsense.  Those elements need to be unique.  RFC1918 isn't unique enough (think what happens during a 
corporate merger).




        -- Niels. 

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