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Re: Google wants to be your Internet
From: "Christian Kuhtz" <kuhtzch () corp earthlink net>
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:23:54 +0000
Dan, there's one very big assumption in your statement: cost of BPL for metering is economical or workable in the regulatory model. Forget value added services for a moment, the cost often cannot be burdened on the rate payer (regulatory constraint). So, funding this sort of effort is non-trivial. Best regards, Christian -- Sent from my BlackBerry. -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Golding <dgolding () t1r com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:52:45 To:Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net> Cc:nanog () merit edu Subject: Re: Google wants to be your Internet One interesting point - they plan to use Broadband over Power Line (BPL) technology to do this. Meter monitoring is the killer app for BPL, which can then also be used for home broadband, Meter reading is one of the top costs and trickiest problems for utilities. - Dan On Jan 22, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Niels Bakker wrote: * nanog () shankland org: <mailto:nanog () shankland org> (Jim Shankland) [Mon 22 Jan 2007, 18:21 CET]: "Travis H." <travis+ml-nanog () subspacefield org: <mailto:travis+ml-nanog () subspacefield org> > writes: IIRC, someone representing the electrical companies approached someone representing network providers, possibly the IETF, to ask about the feasibility of using IP to monitor the electrical meters throughout the US.... The response was "yeah, well, maybe with IPv6". Which is nonsense. More gently, it's only true if you not only want to use IP to monitor electrical meters, but want the use the (global) Internet to monitor electrical meters. I'd love to hear the business case for why my home electrical meter needs to be directly IP-addressable from an Internet cafe in Lagos. It's not nonsense. Those elements need to be unique. RFC1918 isn't unique enough (think what happens during a corporate merger). -- Niels.
Current thread:
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet, (continued)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Jim Shankland (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Niels Bakker (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Daniel Golding (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Brandon Galbraith (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Alexander Harrowell (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Donald Stahl (Jan 23)
- RE: Google wants to be your Internet Jamie Bowden (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Saku Ytti (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Bob Martin (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Christian Kuhtz (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Sean Donelan (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Brandon Galbraith (Jan 23)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Andy Davidson (Jan 24)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Marshall Eubanks (Jan 23)
- Fwd: Google wants to be your Internet tvest (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Jeroen Massar (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet J. Oquendo (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Jeroen Massar (Jan 22)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 22)