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Re: Google wants to be your Internet
From: Adrian Chadd <adrian () creative net au>
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 08:33:26 +0800
On Sun, Jan 21, 2007, Charlie Allom wrote:
This is a pure example of a problem from the operational front which can be floated to research and the industry, with smarter solutions than port blocking and QoS.This is what I am interested/scared by.
Its not that hard a problem to get on top of. Caching, unfortunately, continues to be viewed as anaethma by ISP network operators in the US. Strangely enough the caching technologies aren't a problem with the content -delivery- people. I've had a few ISPs out here in Australia indicate interest in a cache that could do the normal stuff (http, rtsp, wma) and some of the p2p stuff (bittorrent especially) with a smattering of QoS/shaping/control - but not cost upwards of USD$100,000 a box. Lots of interest, no commitment. It doesn't help (at least in Australia) where the wholesale model of ADSL isn't content-replication-friendly: we have to buy ATM or ethernet pipes to upstreams and then receive each session via L2TP. Fine from an aggregation point of view, but missing the true usefuless of content replication and caching - right at the point where your customers connect in. (Disclaimer: I'm one of the Squid developers. I'm getting an increasing amount of interest from CDN/content origination players but none from ISPs. I'd love to know why ISPs don't view caching as a viable option in today's world and what we could to do make it easier for y'all.) Adrian
Current thread:
- Google wants to be your Internet Mark Boolootian (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Rodrick Brown (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Owen DeLong (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet David Ulevitch (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Alexander Harrowell (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet David Ulevitch (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Rodrick Brown (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Randy Bush (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Gadi Evron (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Charlie Allom (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Adrian Chadd (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Mark Smith (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Mark Smith (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Mark Smith (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Roland Dobbins (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet rich (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Adrian Chadd (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Stephen Sprunk (Jan 20)
- Re: Google wants to be your Internet Randy Bush (Jan 20)