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Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick () ianai net>
Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:54:03 -0500
On Jan 7, 2007, at 3:17 PM, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
The real problem with P2P networks is that they don't generally make download decisions based on network architecture.Indeed, that's what I said. Until then ISPs can only fix it with P2P aware caches, if the protocols did it then they wouldn't need the caches though P2P efficiency may go downIt'll be interesting to see how Akamai & co. counter this trend. At the moment they can say it's better to use a local Akamai cluster than haveP2P taking content from anywhere on the planet. Once it's mostly local traffic then it's pretty much equivalent to Akamai. It's still moving routing/TE up the stack though so will affect the ISPs network ops.
ISPs don't pay Akamai, content owners do.Content owners are usually not concerned with the same things an ISP's "newtork ops" are. (I'm not saying that's a good thing, I'm just saying that is reality. Life might be much better all around if the two groups interacted more. Although one could say that Akamai fills that gap as well. :)
Anyway, a content provider is going to do what's best for their content, not what's best for the ISP. It's a difficult argument to make to a content provider that putting their content on millions of end user HDs depending on grandma to provide good quality streaming to Joe Smith down the street. At least in my experience.
-- TTFN, patrick
Current thread:
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?, (continued)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Adrian Chadd (Jan 06)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Michael . Dillon (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Andrew Odlyzko (Jan 06)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Sean Donelan (Jan 06)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Brandon Butterworth (Jan 06)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Brandon Butterworth (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Michael . Dillon (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Will Hargrave (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Sam Stickland (Jan 10)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Michael . Dillon (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Brandon Butterworth (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Patrick W. Gilmore (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Joe Abley (Jan 07)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 07)
- RE: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Bora Akyol (Jan 08)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 08)
- RE: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Bora Akyol (Jan 08)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 08)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Thomas Leavitt (Jan 08)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 08)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Joe Abley (Jan 09)
- Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? Gian Constantine (Jan 09)